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John McGuiganI have a Yanmar YM1610D and want to install a block heater for easier cold starts. I cannot install a magnetic oil pan magnetic heater because the front drive shaft runs too close to the oil pan. The lower radiator hose is too close to the flywheel, engine block and generator belt for a heater there. There is not enough room in the engine compartment to mount a resevoir heater. That only leaves a freeze plug heater. I find 3 freeze plugs on each side of the engine that measure 1.25 inches. That converts to 31.75mm. Is that the size I need? How do I know which freeze plug is threaded? They all look the same to me. How do I remove the freeze plug to install the heater?
IronThey aren't freeze plugs. They are the only way to cast the inner passages of the block when the cast iron is poured. After casting, the steel plugs are installed.
russ hi john,i've got a 1610d.I live in N.E. Kansas where it gets pretty cold in the winter. Using the thermostart and decompression have never had an issue starting my tractor.if anything thats had to start and get going its me.russ
JohnThanks for your input, russ. I think I'll just go out and make sure the thermostart works.
bmaverickAt winter temps up north, have you changed the oil to 10w30 vs. the 15w40 for summer use? Check your owners manual for oil requirements. This could be why Russ is able to start his in the colder mid-west.

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Josh-nhihguy
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:35 pm Post subject: New Holland Genesis block heater
I've got an 8670 and ever since I got it the block heater hasn't worked very well. It's been replaced several times but it's never enough to warm the block enough to start the tractor. The block itself is never even warm. I got an 8970 two years ago but it's the same story. So I'm not sure what to say. Is this typical of genesis tractors or are we simply not figuring something out? They are outdoors tractors in eastern South Dakota. My dad wants to try an oil pan heater to help it start. I've heard enough bad things about them that I'm not sure. These are great tractors in my opinion but temperamental. Lets hear some opinions. If this is the wrong forum please excuse me, not sure where else to go. Thanks everybody
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Doesn't warm the block at all or not noticeably on the outside? If not at all then heater is bad, but really in cold weather it's barely warm enough to feel if outdoors. Check the cord and plug etc, and make sure when installing the heater it isn't touching any metal in the waterjacket.
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Watch your power meter when you plug the block heater in. Does it spin faster? If not, it's not working.
If it is working, get that tractor out of the cold wind, or else install a 2nd block heater.
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Wisconsin Cowman
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
If I remember I think those block heaters are only 400 watts. Its only going to be warm around the block heater. Sometimes I installed a 1500 watt tank heater on the 70 series tractors.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:43 am Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
6 cylinder Fords should have a dual element block heater. 2) 400 watt elements with a 'Y' shaped cord. Works on 4 cylinder engines, too.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:22 am Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Just curious, can't he check/diagnose with a multi-meter to see if its bad, on the OHM's scale ?
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:44 am Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Yes, he could. My way is easier and faster.
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Chris in SK
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
I've got a 1500 watt tank heater on my 8700. It will starts down in -20 C temperatures. When it gets colder than that I try and avoid starting it...and having to go outside! While a pan heater might be good to warm the oil, I don't think it will help it starting very much.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Hi personally I'd Take the frost plug heater and throw it in the bush, or leave it to fill the hole in, I'm in Manitoba Canada. A tank style heater will probably not use much more electricity and do a better job in a shorter time. My Valtra has a block heater and my Belarus a circulating. Both sit in the same mostly un heated shop in the winter, none of them have oil pan heaters, but I think they help get oil moving up the suction pipe and engine oil pressure quicker. i don't park mine out that often over night. The Belarus the blocks near boiled and the Valtra is mildly steamed comparing the 2 side by side L.O.L. The tank heater will work better outside as it produces heat faster and should push the hot water around more, the frost plug heater will struggle to warm anything properly outside, my 7.3 ford diesel has one and is plugged in constant some real cold nights or days and it still coughs a bit.
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Josh-nhihguy
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Thanks everyone for the replies. We've replaced the heater 2 times and it doesn't seem to help the tractor to start. The block doesn't ever seem to be warm but it's usually so cold if there is any warmth it's minimal. We've never tried testing the heaters or checking the meter to see if there's a difference but I'll give that a shot this weekend. The 8670 is under a roof out of the wind usually which is the one more needed. We are definitely in favor of a tank heater but aren't exactly sure where to tie it into to get a good circulation through the motor. Thanks again for the help
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Bern
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
I bet your tank heater draws considerably more current than the block heater. Watt for watt, a block heater should be more effective in my opinion.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:18 am Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater

just curious if you are also using the glow start in the cold, along with the block heater? My 8670 has 4000 hours on it, and it will start in less than 3 revolutions of the engine all the way down to -10 F. without block heat or glow start. That's as cold as I ever tested it. Maybe your tractor engine or injection pump is tired?
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Josh-nhihguy
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Hey John,
You know honestly I don't know what
glow start is. I have a manual but
haven't consulted it in some time
because we've had these problems since
I bought it 6 years ago with 3700
hours. It has 6500 hours now. And
people around here with Ford/New
Hollands don't know either. But none of
them have ever had a need to start
theirs in the winter. Everything could
be tired but I hope not. Everything
seems to be the same as it was. It gets
used as the planter and loader tractor,
and previously as the sprayer and grain
cart tractor as well but meticulously
maintained. But nothing lasts forever
either.
Any thoughts appreciated
Josh
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Bern
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Original Genesis tractors had ether canisters. Later models ditched the ether setup in favor of a grid heater in the intake pipework.
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Josh-nhihguy
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: New Holland Genesis block heater
Interesting. The 8670 is a 1996 tractor. The 8970 is a 1998. I'm just trying to figure this thing out. Tired of dealing with it. Right now to get it started in the very dead of cold winter we keep the 8670 plugged in, and aim a nipco heater towards it, at a safe distance, and get it warmed up enough to start. Very crude but it really works pretty good. But extremely inefficient. Frustrating to say the least. Doesn't seem worth it to replace the block heater again for a third time. In the end it's not a huge deal. The skid loader can do the chores no problem. But there's times when a big loader is handy.
Josh
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